Play Saves the World

The meaning of play for human flourishing

About the show

Daniel and Kevin explore the meaning of play for human flourishing – what it is, what it means, and how people create and maintain playful lives. We explore books, people, places, and ideas committed to engendering play in the midst of busy, working lives.

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  • Episode 20: A Muslim Perspective on Representation in Gaming, and on Jesus Christ

    January 1st, 2023  |  1 hr 15 mins
    islam, representation

    Our second discussion with Ali Karar, a Muslim living and board gaming in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Ali shares his view on representation in board gaming and how to make it better, along with how Muslims view Jesus Christ.

  • Episode 19: Enemies of Board Gaming (A/V Club)

    December 11th, 2022  |  1 hr 11 mins
    a/v club, gaming

    A list of a list! We discuss the YouTube Dice Tower video, "Top 10 Enemies of Gaming" (link below), and draw a top 5 perils list around hobby board gaming.

  • Episode 18: Reality Is Broken! So let's play games that promote positive psychology and collaboration

    November 13th, 2022  |  1 hr 7 mins
    book club

    We dive into Kate McGonigal's book Reality Is Broken, chapters 10 and 13, where she discusses how games can promote positive psychological research (human happiness and flourishing) and collaboration.

  • Episode 17: Interview with Adrian Adamescu

    October 30th, 2022  |  1 hr 6 mins
    board game theory, christian, church, creation, designer

    We interview Adrian Adamescu (designer of Sagrada, Dice Theme Park, Creatures & Cupcakes) about his life of board game design and faith – how growing up in Romania, Germany, and now living in Canada, along with his faith experiences along the way, have impacted his thoughts on life, religion, and game design.

  • Episode 16: 5 Spiritual Lessons from Action Selection Games

    October 16th, 2022  |  1 hr 7 mins
    action selection, game theory, spiritual lessons

    What are Action Selection games, and what can we learn from them about our spirituality?

  • Episode 15: How Reality Is Broken and We Need More Games

    October 2nd, 2022  |  1 hr 9 mins
    book club, game break, game theory, happiness, neuropsychology

    What does Jane McGonigal's Reality Is Broken say about games and human happiness? Defining a game and its sense of flow is key to understanding what creates human happiness.

  • Episode 14: Judaism and Board Games, with Alex Radcliffe

    September 18th, 2022  |  46 mins 49 secs
    judaism, sabbath, world religions

    Alex Radcliffe of BoardGameCo and GameFound helps us understand how board games and Sabbath practices function within Orthodox Judaism.

  • Episode 13: How Board Games Can Be Transcendent

    September 4th, 2022  |  1 hr 1 min

    Can board games be transcendent, what are magic circles, and how does this get at religion and the spiritual life?

  • Bonus: Thank You for 1,000 Downloads!

    August 24th, 2022  |  48 secs

    A brief thank you to our awesome listeners for this milestone of 1,000 downloads.

  • Episode 12: 5 Spiritual Lessons from Push Your Luck Games

    August 21st, 2022  |  1 hr 7 mins
    parable, push your luck, quran

    What are Push Your Luck games, and what might we spiritually gain from them? Daniel and Kevin discuss 5 ideas (+ a bonus), along with risk-taking in general. NOW WITH CHAPTER MARKERS!

  • Episode 11: Can Board Games Save the World? With Dave Bindewald

    August 7th, 2022  |  1 hr 2 mins
    creation, curiosity, evil, interview, play, work

    We interview Dave Bindewald, founder of the Center for Play and Exploration, on the question of whether board games can save the world – or at least help cultivate our "curiosity, divergent thinking, and freedom to fail." Games help us become better thinkers and problem solvers, colleagues, and participants in God's creative acts of creation.

  • Episode 10: The Game of Life

    July 24th, 2022  |  1 hr 3 mins
    bernard suits, game theory, grace, grasshopper

    We wrap up our discussion of Bernard Suits' seminal book The Grasshopper. What are the implications of approaching human life as a game? We unpack some of Suits' terms and ideas regarding utopia as a place where we only play games, and the threat that utopia is always under.